Running

Thirst Trappist said:
After I did my first two half's .... People asked if I was going for a full and this was my thoughts as well
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A buddy of mine trained for a full and he was out running all the time for 2-3 hours at a time as he progressed. I like going out for 30-45 minutes after work with maybe a 90 minute run on Sundays, but I can't imagine any more than that.

Also gonna start doing a half marathon just for fun on my own (ie. go run 13.1 miles cause I can) at least once a quarter this year. I'm slow so that's a Sunday give myself a couple hours kind of event.
 
Mr Gundam said:
A buddy of mine trained for a full and he was out running all the time for 2-3 hours at a time as he progressed. I like going out for 30-45 minutes after work with maybe a 90 minute run on Sundays, but I can't imagine any more than that.

Also gonna start doing a half marathon just for fun on my own (ie. go run 13.1 miles cause I can) at least once a quarter this year. I'm slow so that's a Sunday give myself a couple hours kind of event.
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I think I started my marathon training where many casual runners are - in the 20 miles per week zone. The Nike plan was all over the place, sometimes calling for 6-7 on a weekday, other times calling for just 1-3, and mixing in speed work and/or hills, etc.

I ignored most of it, with the exception of making sure my weekend long run matched the long run in the plan. I did a few speed days, but running on the track was very monotonous to me, especially because I'm not fast (I know, I know...it would've helped). My weeknight runs I kept to my typical 4-5-6 mile loops (under an hour), and I did as many of those as I needed to make up the mileage that was supposed to be covered by the remaining mileage for those weeks, outside the long run (if that makes sense). A few of the longer runs definitely took me 2-3 hours maybe up to 3.5 hours on the 20-22 miler (which was as long as you go). Also, training in Chicago in August made those long runs....challenging.
 
capnmike said:
I think I started my marathon training where many casual runners are - in the 20 miles per week zone. The Nike plan was all over the place, sometimes calling for 6-7 on a weekday, other times calling for just 1-3, and mixing in speed work and/or hills, etc.

I ignored most of it, with the exception of making sure my weekend long run matched the long run in the plan. I did a few speed days, but running on the track was very monotonous to me, especially because I'm not fast (I know, I know...it would've helped). My weeknight runs I kept to my typical 4-5-6 mile loops (under an hour), and I did as many of those as I needed to make up the mileage that was supposed to be covered by the remaining mileage for those weeks, outside the long run (if that makes sense). A few of the longer runs definitely took me 2-3 hours maybe up to 3.5 hours on the 20-22 miler (which was as long as you go). Also, training in Chicago in August made those long runs....challenging.
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That's been a thought I've had looking at plans and actual commentary I've seen in some (keep the long runs for sure and modify the rest a little to fit).

Probably because I'm running slow (in part fitness level, in part sticking to 80/20), but I feel like I've been getting more of a thrill out of running for a long time/longer distances at a comfortable pace (exploring neighborhoods, time to think or listen to full podcasts or chunks of audio books) than running faster. I think where I'm at right now, I'd much rather run a really slow marathon than a half at a moderate pace. My pace on the 10.5 mi I did a couple weeks ago was 9:54, my 5k pace would probably be 8:20 or so. I think I would much rather be able to run farther at 10:00 pace than be able to run that 10.5 at 9:00. But who knows, maybe you can't get one without the other.

At the end of the day, there's probably not enough time. Increasing mileage 10% per week for 3 out of every 4 weeks (for the next 3 months) would put me at a 43 mile week 7 days before the Pgh marathon.
 
I bought some kettlebells (I've got 10, 15 and 35 pound ones) that I use to supplement my running. There's tons of good workout videos on YouTube and I've got a 15 minute full body workout that I do at least once a week to help stave off any sort of back and/or core issues. Incorporates a lot of lunge movements along with swings and upper body lifts.
 
furley said:
mind sharing? i need to do this stuff stat.
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Sure. It feels like I’m doing so little, but I am coming from virtually no strengthening activities for two decades apart from moderate yard work (it killed me to do a total of 30 good push ups at first). Yet it has made a noticeable difference.

The one circuit I have mainly done every other day is 5 sets of:
Push ups
V crunches
Side leg raises (both legs)
Bent side leg raises (both legs) (I may have made this up but it feels good and if I do the same leg back to back with side leg raises I can feel a good deep glute/hip burn)
Glute bridges
Single leg glute bridges (1/2 reps of both leg)
Kneeling toe taps (shin splint prevention)

This was basically just a random made up thing that takes me about 30 minutes to do so ymmv.

Other days I’ll do a mix of plank exercises, lunges, and the rower.

I did just get some resistance bands but haven’t had time to play around with them yet. I also feel like a set of kettle bells would be a good idea for me.

The most surprising thing, which I’ve been told but still was just too lazy to do this sort of stuff, is that I don’t feel fatigued while running; even though I’m doing more total exercise than before, I feel stronger.
 
Mr Gundam said:
A buddy of mine trained for a full and he was out running all the time for 2-3 hours at a time as he progressed. I like going out for 30-45 minutes after work with maybe a 90 minute run on Sundays, but I can't imagine any more than that.

Also gonna start doing a half marathon just for fun on my own (ie. go run 13.1 miles cause I can) at least once a quarter this year. I'm slow so that's a Sunday give myself a couple hours kind of event.
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This is my goal this year as well. Do a few half marathons on my own just for the hell of it.

My company gives $1500 a year to spend on wellness, it can be anything from home gym equipment, gym membership, Legos (mental health counts) etc. I purchased a small home gym set to do some light weights at the end of last year so I would not lose that money, Going to find a workout routine for running/Cycling. Spending this weekend cleaning the basement to make room for it (pretty much boxing up a bunch of beer and sending out to a few buddies of mine that are into beer way more then me at this point.)
 
R1pps said:
This is my goal this year as well. Do a few half marathons on my own just for the hell of it.

My company gives $1500 a year to spend on wellness, it can be anything from home gym equipment, gym membership, Legos (mental health counts) etc. I purchased a small home gym set to do some light weights at the end of last year so I would not lose that money, Going to find a workout routine for running/Cycling. Spending this weekend cleaning the basement to make room for it (pretty much boxing up a bunch of beer and sending out to a few buddies of mine that are into beer way more then me at this point.)
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I’ve done 10 official half marathons and they were fun, but I’m over paying (easily $100 if not more) to do something I can do just as well on my own. Especially since the viaduct no longer exists and running on that was the best part of the Seattle Rock and Roll every year.
 
Mr Gundam said:
I’ve done 10 official half marathons and they were fun, but I’m over paying (easily $100 if not more) to do something I can do just as well on my own. Especially since the viaduct no longer exists and running on that was the best part of the Seattle Rock and Roll every year.
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I think the longest I have ran is 11 miles, so half marathon is doable. I just need to stop being lazy.

I don't sign up for runs/cycling events/triathlons anymore. I don't need to pay money to know I am slow as fuck .
 
Mr Gundam said:
A buddy of mine trained for a full and he was out running all the time for 2-3 hours at a time as he progressed. I like going out for 30-45 minutes after work with maybe a 90 minute run on Sundays, but I can't imagine any more than that.
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it’s not just that, you are wrecked after. I’ve done two fulls and both were pre-children. Couldn’t imagine doing a 20 mile run and then have to be functional after. Long run training was do the long ass run early, get back, clean up, eat a fuck ton and then NAP. It was a solid 4-6 hours devoted directly or indirectly to running.
 
Ran 12 yesterday, a new longest for me. Don’t feel too bad today, but also was helpful in seeing that doing more than double that in 3 months on these 40 year old bones is definitely more ambitious than I ought to be. I’m thinking I’ll sign up for the Pittsburgh half in May and if it goes well I could always look to do the full in Philly in November.

Anyone have any idea on how to try to calibrate a target pace to help give myself something to aim for over the next couple months?
 
Kraftster said:
Ran 12 yesterday, a new longest for me. Don’t feel too bad today, but also was helpful in seeing that doing more than double that in 3 months on these 40 year old bones is definitely more ambitious than I ought to be. I’m thinking I’ll sign up for the Pittsburgh half in May and if it goes well I could always look to do the full in Philly in November.

Anyone have any idea on how to try to calibrate a target pace to help give myself something to aim for over the next couple months?
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Depends on the result you want from the race. Are you looking for a good finish? Do another couple 12-13 milers and knock a few seconds off your splits for race day.

Are you looking to full-on race it? Do a 10k and look up projected half results based on that. There are plenty of models out there.

Good on you for choosing the half. The full is just not really necessary, nor is it particularly fun to do or train for. That many miles kills your legs and it requires a lot more precision in training. The half is super forgiving and the can be much more easily tailored to your life and running style.
 
shadowane said:
Realized that getting up at 5:30am to run was untenable and so started running mid-dayish instead. Holy shit running is hard for me.
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mid-day running is hardest for me. not sure why. feels like my body isn't ready for it somehow.

i've run pre-work hours, mid-day and after work. pre-work hours is best. post-work i like to clear the mind, but mid-day just never works. always feels stiff and awkward. can't get a rhythm. a mile feels like 3.
 
I'm so damn out of shape.

Stopped riding the Peloton a good year and a half ago, maybe more, and have relied mainly on outdoor work to keep in shape. We moved bought a place in town at the end of Summer, moving from a place in the country where I had been maintaining acreage that involved lots of brush clearing and weed whacking multiple times per year. Definitely not missing the yard work, especially the industrial weed eater, but my body has certainly missed the workout. Trying to motivate to get on the Peloton, but beginning a running/sit up/push up regimen as well.

Running - Went on my first run in decades this afternoon. I decided to see how long it would take me to run a mile and a half. I wasn't able to run the whole distance as my heart rate shot up into the low 170's and my right hip started aggravating me pretty badly. Knocked it out in 19 minutes, but know I can do a lot better than that. I used to run 6-7 minute miles back in the day. I'm not expecting that, but would love to crack 8 again. Trying to see how low I can get it within a month.

Sit ups - Surprised myself and can still crank these out without issue.

Push ups - Wow, I am fucking terrible at these! I don't think I was ever good at them, but even in the proper position, I can only do a handful. I'm 6'3" with long arms, so I have that going against me when it comes to push ups, but still, I suck. How do I get to the point where I can run through 30 or so push ups in a minute? Anyone have any push up pointers to make them any easier? I keep reading tips online, but nothing feels right.
 
I’m no expert, but I think your sit-ups will help your push ups (my push ups feel best when my core is strong), and also maybe try sets from your knees to experience the full range of motion (maybe even more range than is possible from a plank).

Also, possibly post your question here: https://dailydrinkingthread.com/community/threads/healthy-habits.899/page-53

The strength people are mostly over there.
 
bigstrunso said:
I'm so damn out of shape.

Stopped riding the Peloton a good year and a half ago, maybe more, and have relied mainly on outdoor work to keep in shape. We moved bought a place in town at the end of Summer, moving from a place in the country where I had been maintaining acreage that involved lots of brush clearing and weed whacking multiple times per year. Definitely not missing the yard work, especially the industrial weed eater, but my body has certainly missed the workout. Trying to motivate to get on the Peloton, but beginning a running/sit up/push up regimen as well.

Running - Went on my first run in decades this afternoon. I decided to see how long it would take me to run a mile and a half. I wasn't able to run the whole distance as my heart rate shot up into the low 170's and my right hip started aggravating me pretty badly. Knocked it out in 19 minutes, but know I can do a lot better than that. I used to run 6-7 minute miles back in the day. I'm not expecting that, but would love to crack 8 again. Trying to see how low I can get it within a month.

Sit ups - Surprised myself and can still crank these out without issue.

Push ups - Wow, I am fucking terrible at these! I don't think I was ever good at them, but even in the proper position, I can only do a handful. I'm 6'3" with long arms, so I have that going against me when it comes to push ups, but still, I suck. How do I get to the point where I can run through 30 or so push ups in a minute? Anyone have any push up pointers to make them any easier? I keep reading tips online, but nothing feels right.
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You’ll see massive improvements with this and it’s stupid easy to follow https://app.100pushups.com/
 
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